A Declaration on Kosovo
1. The Kosovo civil war was a confrontation between the Albanian separatist extremism, lead by the KLA and the repressive nationalism of official Yugoslavia, as designed politically by Slobodan Milosevic and the other FRY leaders and practiced by the FRY army, the police and the paramilitaries. The Albanian part received considerable financial and military support from abroad.Signed by 7 members of the CNN discussion board on the Peace in the Balkans2. The Rambouillet peace negotiations were intentionally undermined by USA (Mrs. Albright), who presented certain last-moment implementation clauses totally unacceptable by any sovereign country.
3. The Allied Force Operation was an illegal act of aggression, not justified by international law and not approved by UN. It caused extended material and human losses in Yugoslavia, without been able to avoid bloody armed confrontation, expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Albanians out of Kosovo and further exaltation of ethnic hate.
4. The NATO aggression was accompanied by an unacceptable propaganda war, targeted not only the FRY government, but also the whole Serbian nation. Nevertheless, a significant part of the people in the NATO member countries and also in the countries of the Balkan region was against the NATO operation and played certain role for it's termination.
5. The output of the Allied Force Operation was much worse than what could be achieved by peaceful means, especially if only a part of those billions spend for destruction was directed to support a strong UN peacekeeping operation. The exclusion of FRY forces resulted in emigration of over 200 000 people of Serbian and other ethnicity, accompanied by the illegal entrance of many Albanians from Albania proper, which further complicates the search of a peaceful and sustainable solution.
Observations
I was thinking the other day that I don't believe there's anyone, supporter or opponent of the ICTY, who doesn't think that Milosevic will be found guilty. I also think that there's never been a case in a victor's tribunal that has ever found in favour of the accused. I can't recall a single Japanese or German commander found not guilty.Kim OlssonOne, so called, 'legal' precedent argued in the ICTY was the General Tomoyuki Yamashita precedent. The Japanese general was found guilty of not having prevented atrocities committed by troops under his command and he was hanged a month later. The interesting part of that precedent was that Frank Reel, the government-appointed defense counsel in those Japanese war-crimes trial after WW2, later denounced the trials as a sham. The precedent was put forward by a US law professor who, btw, didn't agree on a proposed UN definition of aggression only because the US actions in Grenada, Iraq, and Yugoslavia would fall under that definition.
I also read that Carla del Ponte visited Washington to discuss with Colin Powell the 'hinderence' by Yugoslavia in cooperating with the tribunal. Naturally, this visit didn't receive much ink in US media. In my ignorance, I expected that an UNSC appointed tribunal would bring problematic issues to the UNSC and not to a country that have been military involved in an area of conflict over which the ICTY is said to have its jurisdiction.
The trial itself seems to continue in the same farcical manner it started. When the prosecutor cannot produce a single eyewitness that can testify to having actually seen a "summary execution of innocent civilians" or anyone who can testify that "Serbs knocked on our door and ordered us to go to Albania", then I guess it's time to bring in a statistician. Apart from the old programmers adage of "garbage-in garbage-out", the prosecutors office actually managed to contradict their own claims in their opening statement. According to Ball, the reason people were fleeing was because there was a statistical correlation between killings and refugees (gee, who would have thought...), which also statistically then negates the prosecutors notion that refugees were forced to leave their homes by Yugoslav forces. From a legal standpoint, the only relevant statement in that document was the sentence in which his peers stated that his study doesn't prove or disprove his, or Milosevic, assertions.
Ashdown's testimony must be classified as one of the most irrelevant testimonies ever produced in this trial. Judge May's objections to Milosevic cross-examination being irrelevant is, in my opinion, because Ashdown's testimony was utterly irrelevant. Personally, I think that Milosevic handled his cross-examination poorly. The only relevant issue Milosevic needed to bring into light was the fact that Ashdown publicly stated that the Balkan only functioned properly when under the occupation of an empire. Further I think that Milosevic should have dismissed Ashdown as merely a private person and not as a representative of an organisation or a country and that his observations in Kosovo were his own private perceptions encouraged by the KLA terrorists. If Ashdown were to change his testimony to say that he was there in an official manner, then he would have already incriminated England for violating the UN charters by issuing a threat of violence against a sovereign nation.
I remember reading countless eyewitness accounts of how Serbs locked 150 people into a small residential house and killed everyone inside and later burned the house to the ground. As you're aware, amazingly there was always one 'victim' that survived and escaped from the evil Serbs to be able to tell the these horrible tales of genocide. Where are those witnesses today? I can now fully understand why the prosecutor wanted to join the indictment of Kosovo with indictments for Croatia and Bosnia, because even she realised that they simply didn't have a shred of evidence to support the allegations. As one newspaper article put it: "What the prosecution lacks in quality, they're making up in quantity". Repeat a lie enough times and it becomes a truth?
Perisic caught spying for the US and Djinjic claims ignorance? This scandal only confirms what pretty much everyone else knows to be true. Before the end of March, we'll see another bunch of Serbs being literally sold out by Djinjic to the ICTY for a meagre $40 million. I think this all comes back to the trial of Milosevic. Nato failed to grab Karadzic and Milutinovic refuse to testify against Milosevic. Djinjic and the US were getting nervous and I suspect that Djinjic asked Perisic to give whatever information was available to the US to help in the trial against Milosevic. I feel that Djinjic is the one who needs to have Milosevic convicted the most. It's completely absurd for Djinjic to claim ignorance about the activities of Perisic.
Dear Kelly Campbell
Kelly Campbell
Co-Director / Western U.S. Coordinator
Peaceful Tomorrows
5111 Telegraph #185, Oakland, CA 94609March 2, 2002
Enclosed is my membership form and a contribution to the FOR / Peaceful Tomorrows Afghan fund.
I am very, very grateful to you and those in this organization for your efforts and your voice. I fully support the actions you seek to take in order to bring an end to the violence on all sides.
Three years ago I logged on to the internet for the first time. It was then that the bombing of Yugoslavia was about to begin. I was fully supportive of our government at that time and began to participate in a CNN message board forum. It was a learning experience of a life time for me. I was unaware of how ignorant I was of the conflict, the alternative solutions and how completely unnecessary bombing Yugoslavia was. And, I made friends with people in and from Yugoslavia. During the war, I would talk with them as the bombs were falling. I got just a glimpse of what is was like for someone to live under the bombs we drop. It made a deep impression on me...
I will never forget what it was like to be talking to friends while the ground shook, windows shattered, the night sky burst into flames. I was online when we bombed the RTS television station and read in tears while someone wrote he could smell the burning flesh from his apartment balcony. Or another writes of seeing her cousin's dismembered body on news footage. And those with children who could not understand the horror from above. I remember the times when I would be talking with friends during the bombing runs... and the connection would disappear... sometimes for a few days... and I would wonder and wait and worry. Were they still alive? Or are they now "collateral damage"? I've only written of a few examples but there were many, many others.
So many of these people in far away countries are not our enemies nor are they "evil doers". They're just ordinary people like you and me who want a roof over their heads, food on the table, their children to be safe and a chance.
September 11th brought feelings of shock, horror, deep sorrow and dread for what was to follow. I have waited for feelings of anger and rage to surface. I expected they would, but I'm still waiting. What I find instead, is an even greater conviction that we must find another way to solve our problems. So much happened in such a short period of time that it has been overwhelming... the military campaigns, the threats of military action, the new laws and intimidation of dissent here. And I have felt, as I think many other have, at loose ends ... not knowing which way to turn or where to start. Your organization provides a much needed focal point.
You have also given me something that I had lost after September 11th and the days and months that have followed... hope.
I will support you in any way I am able.
Sincerely,
Cynthia Alexander
How innocent are we?
How innocent are people if they never care to know about the suffering of other people?Snjezana SekulicHow "democratic" are those who never care?
When my "Serb" pain is only my pain and the rest of the world doesn't feel it, I would call this unjustice, unfairness and passivity for not researching the background of this pain before judging and blaming. This misjudgement leads to a worse pain in my chest which at the end could result in some inner or outer "explosion." That "hidden" pain develops hate for those who never cared to care. And way too many belong to this group of careless people. I bet you while I write this that these "careless" still don't care, because it seems hard to change or get used to changes. If I tell you that you are misled by certain people who mislead you through the media, you will tear me apart, call me prejudist, crazy, etc... for your own misinformation that disturbs me up to my eye balls. How little this so called civilized world is capable of knowing, it's amazing!
A full stomach can't feel the empty one. Freedom can't feel the pain of war. You can't feel my pain.
But you can do one thing: find out the roots of a problem so that you can understand and be informed before you make wrong judgements which hurt already hurt people even more.
The USA is known for its psychologists and counsellors who are researching the "inside" of a person.
Couldn't you act like a researcher to find out the other side of a story by trying to inform yourself about a certain people, culture or country? Or you are so ignorant to whatever and whoever, because it simply but sadly doesn't interest you? Well, if that is the case, then why should anybody one day care about you, your people, culture or country? I love my country just like you love yours. But many think it shouln't be that way. Everybody should like the USA but the USA doesn't need to like anybody.
Is the rule when you enter America to spit on your native country in order to be called "democratic"?
Who has given anybody the right to think that one is good and the other is bad? Maybe you give yourself such a right, but I don't see such "laws" and hate if somebody should force me to love what I don't love or hate what I don't hate. I rather call myself a citizen of the world, while some die for the US flag and others tear it apart. I prefer none of the two. Can you love somebody you don't love? Can you hate somebody you don't hate? Maybe what is democracy to you is communism or dictatorship for another. Will you call that other stupid for that and who gives you the right to do so or the right that only you know? Maybe your freedom and democracy is opposite of what you are told it is. Maybe it's simply boring, but you decide. Once you step down from the image of thinking that you are the best, you will first then be able to see that other people and countries also think that they are the best. Maybe in somebody's view their poor, untouched village is better than somebody's "dirty" huge cities.
Respect that, don't make fun of it. Who is bossing America? America is bossing the world. Is it fair? -- You decide.
Move out from the USA and you will feel that the love for the USA is not so strong as you thought. Love for US movies -- yes, but even that is fading due to exaggeration, repetition or lover value. As long as you live inside the USA you may never be able to feel what others feel around the world. What disturbs the world is that soon it looks like we all have to be forced to think the same, eat the same, but be treated different in front of the rulers of the New World Order which many know little about. And if you happen to know more, soon you loose your job in the USA as in the rest of the world that is being misled to slavery.
Allow me to tell you that many people will fight to keep their native food instead of Mc Donald's, their drinks instead of Coca- Cola, their music instead of "foreign." I don't say people shouldn't try this hamburger or Cola, as long as it doesn't replace the values of the good old traditions. We all know Cola is bad and hamburger is fat or don't we?
We pretend we don't. We eat a fat hamburger and drink a Diet Coke. Does it make sense?
You can be amazed by the simple, common intelligence of today's people who call themselves civilized. It takes more to understand the meaning of that word I guess.
What makes many people brainwashed by news from TV or newpapers?
Just because it is easier not to care and simply easier to follow what you already are being served?
I know it's easier just to turn on that darn TV and eat chips next to it. If I was running it I would enjoy watching you fell victims for my lies as probably those who runs the whole "shadowy" show are laughing.
By the way, you call this a democratic media? Don't answer me, answer yourself. Ask yourself how democratic it is when only one and the same people run it and own it !? If you are a non jew who works for them, you are still the employee and you don't decide what should be said, because then you loose your chair.
Have you been in Bosnia yourself to see the reality? By the way, have you ever heard about Bosnia before the war? If you did, do you know it's past history? Did you ever think why one people would be so bad (Serbs) and one people so good (muslims), while they both were in the same war? Is it possible that only Serbs were the bad guys? Were they bad because they lived in their own country or because they bombed America or any other country? Why were they bad? Because they should give up on their own country in order for Islam to take over or Germany or the New World Order dictator, America?
Then let me ask you why don't you give up on America to the "islamic terrorists" who were your partners in Bosnia?
Don't be hurt now, let's be fair. The USA is surprised that yesterdays friends could be todays enemies.
But why surprised? Serbs are not surprised that muslims want to build an islamic state in the middle of their home and that they have to fight that. Simple? The whole west was against the Serbs because they completely alone defended themselves from occupiers. Remember one big difference: They were occupied by two enemies, one islamic and one from the US - New World Order who used Islam as a "springboard" and partner in order to eliminate the Serbs from this planet. Why would they do that you might wonder? In order for the USA to slowly expand NATO into the Balkans and from there easily continue their game of "democracy" crashing and punishing anyone on its way.
The Serbian president Milosevic was in their way because he wanted to protect his country from this evil monster.
He sits in Hague prison where those responsible should exchange his place, but since those responsible of the break up of Yugoslavia runs even this Hague court, they will of course not make themselves imprisoned for their "democratic" efforts but by cleaning up their acts they imprison those in their way. And we are worse, we believe them!
Saddam Hussein is bad because he wanted to get closer to the already close oil in Kuwait. Americans are good because they from far away have the right to be close to this same Kuwait and its oil. Everything that is in the interest of the USA is good and everything in the interest of other people is bad. I don't see any other way and at the same time this way makes me sick and helpless. What a fair world we live in. Everything that is weaker than the lion gives him the right to eat up. Even the nature is many times sad.
Why is now this same West against the muslim terror attack on the USA? Only because it happened to the USA and not Serbia or any other country and we all know about this tragic attack and the "lion" is strong and we can't go against him? Is it not because listen to big brother, otherwise he might beat you up! Or its the same duplicity?
I think both.
Let's for one minute pretend that Bin Laden is behind this attack on New York. Did you pretend? Ok.
Before you go to sleep tonight, take one more minute and pretend that you are not 100% sure it's Bin Laden behind the attack and that you are a detective who is trying to figure it out. There are possibilities it could have been somebody else organizing this, while you never thought of that one. Well you did see detective movies, didn't you?
Isn't the killer often the one who we last were suspicious of? We don't need a movie, just take a look at the reality in big cities like New York, Los Angeles, etc. where the movie industry made people act crazy in reality as if it was a movie. Many are dying to kill in order to show up on TV. Crazy world when you make the schools loose their values and get this terrible things as a result. Demoralize the world and its people so you easier can lead them or call it mislead them. Does that say anything to you? Still not? Oh boy we are deep in the .....
Well, don't now again use your already used imagination that president Milosevic could be behind this "also."
Be happy as you usually are when you imprisone sombody, he is still in that jail in Hague, just to make you happy, unfortunately. You still don't even get his message he is giving to you and to this world led by the New World Order, where they blame you for their own guilt. The one who get's in to your "claws" has a hell of a time prooving not guilty, even if it takes you up to 3 years to look for false and fabricated lies. He is guilty because the USA together with islamic mudjahedins did everything to destroy Yugoslavia. Shame on such a behaviour and such a people and world rulers.
I was born in Bosnia. I can tell you that Serbs, Croats and Muslims lived in peace until the USA tought the muslims to fight against us and create an islamic state in the middle of our eyes, which would lead to future killings and stealing of our land. All this muslim protection from the USA happened at the same time as Israel was killing muslims in the middle east.
Of course it's hard to believe this and that is the point of politics. I don't see any Ariel Sharon or any other jewish president being charged for such a crime against humanity. Actually jewish people seem to be perfect in everything.
American Clinton allowed Iran to sell weapons to muslims in Bosnia and in that way send their mudjahedins to provoke more war in that region which later led to the same problem in Kosovo, Macedonia and it doesn't end there.
People like Clinton and the muslim president Izetbegovic are not those who did everything to ruin my Bosnia!?
They did everything to make peace. How naiv and how stupid could you be to believe that they want peace.
Sorry to offend, but this is absurd. Men who go to bed with another woman get away with everything. They do it once, they do it twice... The same gangsters continue the task of the Clinton sickness. All of a sudden we are surprised that New York is attacked? We seem to be surprised about everything. Is there anything we are not surprised of?
What do we then know?
Neither did the US Ruder & Finn in an interview with a french journalist say "we were not paid to be moral" while becoming wealthy for their creation of a bad reputation of the Serb people.
You could call them by all kinds of bad names. I wonder if you would be able to call the jewish by the same bad names, immediately you are antisemitic.President Bush goes to church, then he carries a Bible under his arm and goes to war. Does that make him believe in the Bible? Well, let me not bother the poor thing, he sometimes visits the mosque to. Only I don't know what he believes in except the dolar. But we will close our eyes as we are used to do. Some of us will protest, but is that many enough? Maybe soon there will be nobody left to protest. You think the government would save us instead of poisoning us? Let's see how many more cases of anthrax we will hear about until a few of us survive knowing that the rest died. Again surprised, oh don't do that to me, please. Turn on the TV they will tell you the truth to calm you down again. Next morning when you wake up you might realize they used you as their experiment rabbit also, but it will be late for you and you will still be surprised and die surprised. Actually I'm getting tired of repeating myself for no reason.
Was Bosnia with its three ethnic people living together, torn apart in a bloody war in order to live togehter again just as they did before? So what the hell is the difference?
Thousands of people died while the USA and Iran had their profit. May that profit wake them up at night!
What does Bosnia have today that it did't have before? More misery, yes. "We called it balkanization." Now we have the same "balkanization" in the USA. And who said the USA is fighting the drug traffic? Don't fool yourself, grow up, why would a profiters country stop something what it profits from? They pretend to burn some drug fields while they support the production of it in Afghanistan. Duplicity as usual. The whole Europe gets this drugs from the Middle East through your peacful "innocent" Albanians. You think that Mr. Rich wants to be Mr. Poor when it's more than obvious how much he profits from drugs that the "naive" people are buying and using to die faster. Or they see no enjoyment in this life anymore so they get druggy because of their own weakness and incapability to handle the daily life or they are running away from it already?
They are selling it to us and we call them primitive and fanatic. Why did we civilized and intelligent fell victim for their fanatic sales? Who is what at the end? The drugs can't make us think straight even that much? Why do you think a government of any country would think of you if you don't think of yourself? Put your self in the governing shoes.
Would you do the right thing or the wrong thing? First couple of months you would try to do it right until you see that you are surrounded with wrong thinkers. In order to stay next to them you would have to change to the wrong, which at that time for you already would become right. Later everything is easy. Somebody wants to buy your mother, why not sell her to? How much, one milllion, two or three or less or more? Are you informed who runs and rules in this world?
It's still never late to figure out, but to change it, don't ask me how. Maybe we need many, many like Milosevic in order to wake up before we die under the same boot of the new world ruler.
It takes a brave man to be brave and a coward to be a coward. Those who can't wake up against the systematicly disinformation are not just cowards, but also fanatics who think they are intelligent and civilized. Now you will be against me and blame me because I write this instead of opening your eyes and ears that you carry for no reason.
Maybe those who put Milosevic in their prison are those behind more than we wish or ever could imagine to know.
Do you believe in the Bin Laden evidence? Then maybe I should say good night for this time.
Many people believe it or not dislike the muslims and the jews. After all they used to be the same people anyway.
One day all of you will become Serbs defending yourselves from Islam and the New World Order and its rulers.Of course if we survive on this planet Earth. I wouldn't be surprised if they would cut the internet so we could loose the other side of the truth between each other.
'Yugoslavia - the avoidable war' | video (4x40mins). If you would like to know the other side of the war in Yugoslavia, watch the movie. You'll be amazed.
To the British nationals on The Hague tribunal
Open letter
Brief audio-visual reports from The Hague have featured two Englishmen speaking for the Tribunal at the trial of Slobodan Milosevic. One is a would-be 'judge', the other is billed as one of the Prosecutors. Both are properly clad, in robes, and wear the requisite masks of judicial 'seriousness' and 'impartiality'. One is even be-wigged and appears as a rather comical clone since the Tribunal is light years away from the Old Bailey in every conceivable respect. It has not been too difficult to spot the Englishmen's tendency to engage in platitudes about 'Civilization', and lecture on violations of 'Civilized' norms.Raymond K. Kent (emeritus), Berkeley University of California, History DepartmentFratricidal wars have never been 'civilized' in any sense of the term, whether they took place in Cromwell's England or disintegrating Second Yugoslavia. But, the supreme irony of the Englishmen's high moral plateau about 'Civilization' consists of two glaring contradictions.
The greatest mass murders in modern history have been committed by the most Civilized States.
What 'Uncivilized Tribe' could have exterminated in a structured way millions of Jews, with Teutonic precision, in the early 1940's? What 'Primitive Tribe' could have dropped two atomic bombs on hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians toward the end of WWII? The second component of the irony is that the two Englishmen have a too lofty conception of their own country's 'Civilized' behavior or else suffer from historical amnesia. Let us remind them of a few nasty skeletons in Mother England's rather huge closet.Did the German Nazis invent concentration camps? Well, no, the British did in the Anglo-Boer War. What they did to the Boer women and children would qualify for an award in cruelty, a bloody Oscar of sorts. Did the Nazis invent one of the most terrifying methods of mass destruction from the air, namely 'Carpet Bombing'? No, the British did, with Bomber Harris as its spiritual father. Long before Hiroshima and Nagasaki there was an equally destructive Dresden, a glimpse at what a fiery inferno, greater than Dante's own, must look like. Anyone remember what Civilized country promised safety to tens of thousands of friendly soldiers under the condition that they disarm completely and then promptly turned them over to their arch enemies who simply slaughtered them? Yes, it was England. As a recently released memoir brings out', fifty-six years ago (in 1945) the British authorities committed a horrendous crime when they handed over thousands of men to certain death. Men who had all been granted asylum'. Indeed, about 30 000 Yugoslav anti-Communists who turned over their weapons to the British authorities, as WWII allies were loaded into sealed lorries and trains (to be) 'slaughtered in Slovenia (across the Austrian border) and thrown into death pits'.
Without mentioning what has been done to the Irish over a lengthy period of time, the fact of the matter is that Great Britain has been the world's greatest bully for almost a century, imposing its rule on such 'uncivilized' places as India and robbing the riches in a host of places which allowed the English home nabobs to lead very refined lives, develop consummate social manners and table etiquette, cultivate the life of intellect and perceive themselves as representing the Apex of Civilization. Underneath it all, England remained a predator until it lost the Empire. It has started to be aggressive abroad again, under the evangelical preacher and political control freak, Tony Blair, who is 'hooking' Britain to the might of the United States. Blair has been the most outspoken bully in the Middle East, in the Balkans and at The Hague where he should really be in the dock for war crimes and crimes against humanity, urged by him, committed under an Open Sun and brazenly denied.
It must be heady brew to accuse, 'indict' and 'judge' nationals of another country which is too inconsequential in material resources and military might. There are no home restrains either (from constituents and parliamentarians) on those who run the Tribunal. Their paymasters are, for the most part, the finger-pointers themselves. There is even a private financial donor, infected with a large dose of megalomania. The Tribunal's 'officers' are accountable in reality to no one, neither Man nor History nor God. They are the pigmy caterers to the highly suspect audience of humanitarians full of hate, to the moral giants of the parlor rooms and corporate media in the 'Civilized West'. They have mounted a puppet theater masquerading as a court of law with the sentence already telegraphed a hundred times to the whole 'International Community'.
The New York Times would not print this letter because it did three things which do not fit together into the agenda of major scribal and audio-visual media in the Enlightened West. It pointed out that Milosevic's 'trial' will invariably translate into yet another smear campaign against the Serbs, that its objective is to pin Collective Guilt on the Serbian People and that there is on hand the kind of proof to the contrary that no cerebral terror and/or propaganda can undo.
The Editor,
The New York Times
12 February 2002As the Times' front page title suggests (NYT, 11 February 2002), layers of Balkan guilt will peel off during the lengthy trial of Slobodan Milosevic. Unfortunately, the rest of the lengthy article by Ian Fisher already reveals that the real target of The Hague Tribunal as well as of its financial backers and most of the major Western media is to establish a collective Serb guilt through his trial. It is predictable that 'Serb atrocities' will be endlessly paraded and what will emerge out of them will reconfirm the NATO strategy's centerpiece: the Serbs cannot be victims but only aggressors.
Any detached and scholarly re-examination of major developments in the ex-Yugoslav space will show that the earliest 'ethnic cleansing' was not carried out by the Serbs, that over 1 000 000 Serbs have been 'ethnically cleansed' out of Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. It will also show that both the Germany of Mr. Kohl and the US Administration under Mr. Clinton bear an identifiable and heavy responsibility for re-Balkanizing the Second Yugoslavia. Given that the Bosnian Serbs owned legally 62 percent of the real estate before the fratricidal wars, an increase of 8 percent cited by Mr. Fisher does not add up to 'genocidal cleansing' of the Bosnian Muslims. Neither in Bosnia nor at Kosovo could Milosevic and his underlings have planned or carried out the total elimination of non-Serb population majorities.
There is one irrefutable proof that collective guilt cannot be inflicted on the Serbs as a people. During the height of local conflicts in Croatia and Kosovo, some 60 000 Croats and 80 000 ethnic Albanians lived in the Greater Belgrade area unmolested.
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